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HID Conversion?

Postby Grav » Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:39 pm

Alright,

I was lookig to carry out a HID conversion for hyundai coupe Siii and was wondering if anyone has any advice
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Re: HID conversion?

Postby scout » Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:53 pm

Its illegal unless you do a proper job with self levelers and washers
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Re: HID conversion?

Postby Angelus » Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:06 pm

scout wrote:Its illegal unless you do a proper job with self levelers and washers


Yes but nobody notices, just take em out for the mot :D
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Re: HID conversion?

Postby LiDL » Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:10 pm

NO!!

if you have to take something out for the MOT it's bad and wrong!

HID's on the projector part of the lights will pass an mot and therefore not a safety issue, however yes still illegal because of the rest of the requirements.
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Re: HID conversion?

Postby Gen3FX » Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:02 am

We should certainly not be seen to advocate anything illegal.

Even though it will pass an MOT, HID are very different in appearance to Xenon / Halogen and the cops will notice this, it only takes a bored copper and you have a fine and possible points on your license.

Is it worth the risk?
Just fit Nightbreakers.
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Re: HID conversion?

Postby SPeedY_B » Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:15 pm

Out of curiosity for those who would consider fitting HID's (Not me) and actually wanted to jump through all the ridiculous hoops to make them fully legal. What exactly is involved? Can it be all be fitted as a 'kit' of sorts, or is there a monumental amount of arsing about to get them up to spec?
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Re: HID conversion?

Postby Angelus » Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:56 pm

You would need auto leveling dipped projectors (gen3's only have the fixed projectors which can be moved by the little wheel in the cabin), they can be done but its a kerfuffle, the only other thing is you need washer nossles pointed and working at the lights. (this is an old requirement and is pointless as hid's run much lower heat than ordinary bulbs so they dont need cleaning so often).
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Re: HID conversion?

Postby Grav » Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:38 pm

still undecided. i think that HID's really set a car off and i wasnt wanting to do anythin to mine really. Whats these Nightbreakers? and is there a noticible difference?
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Re: HID conversion?

Postby Stopher » Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:17 pm

Grav wrote:still undecided. i think that HID's really set a car off and i wasnt wanting to do anythin to mine really. Whats these Nightbreakers? and is there a noticible difference?


They're 'Osram Nightbreakers', replacement headlamp bulbs +90% brighter than standard. I've put these on my SIII and they're much better than the originals with a much 'whiter' light!
Phillips X-treme are also good!

Bought mine from here

You'll need H7's and you'll also have to remove the offside headlamp unit completely, to get at the bulb, as the washer filler bottle is in the way!! :roll:
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Re: HID Conversion?

Postby Angelus » Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:26 am

I have the night breakers for the high beam, a big improvement. HIDs for the low, the light output from ordinary bulbs on the projectors are just atrocious.
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Re: HID Conversion?

Postby SPeedY_B » Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:55 am

Got Nightbreakers fitted in mine. Bloody fantastic things. Can actually see the light on the road now, the previous (I assume, standard) bulbs just put out a haze of light in front of me. Awful.
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Re: HID Conversion?

Postby scout » Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:59 pm

I suggest you read this before you even think of putting retrofit HID's on your car.

Angelus - which part of 'It is Illegal' are you having trouble grasping.
As I stated before, just because the police officers 'choose' to ignore the law that doesn't mean that it's not still the law. I personally think that by 'looking the other way' they are not only not doing you any favours but also could get themselves in trouble with their bosses. Unless the reflectors have been set up for HID (which would mean replaceing the light units themselves) they are illegal, no ifs no buts.
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Re: HID Conversion?

Postby thedupleman » Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:13 pm

last time i went for mot,the tester told me he had failed 5 cars with add on hid's.he said he can spot them without even trying to test them.when he does the beam pattern is always incorrect.THEY WILL FAIL AN MOT.if your lucky enough to get a tester who doesnt bother.....what are you gonna do when you get a tester who does.thats the problem
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Re: HID Conversion?

Postby SPeedY_B » Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:32 pm

HID's are NOT ILLEGAL WHEN INSTALLED TO SPECIFICATION. Please read the rest of the thread. Installed at-time-of-manufacture HID's are becoming a little more common. After market HID's are usually illegal, however CAN be made legal, but it's a massive pain in the arse to do so.

I think the problem here isn't the legality, but rather someone saying it's fine, when it's clearly not. Facts need to be stated. After all, we can all make our cars ridiculous to the point of complete illegality, but their use could be for show only.

As for the posting of illegal things, I agree, blatant p*ss taking shouldn't be allowed. However I'm sure that more than one member here has gone over the speed limit, has illegal plates fitted, has illegal light bulbs, illegal tint levels ... and so forth. I think discussion should be open and free, but recommendation should not be encouraged.
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Re: HID Conversion?

Postby Chapp » Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:32 pm

enough of the bickering:
back on topic.


HID conversion:
1 - £30-75 HID kit consisting of ballasts and bulbs.
NOT a legal conversion and will NOT pass an MOT but a very common modification nowadays.

2 - unknown amount, the same HID kit but will need a set of headlight washers, correct reflectors and self levellers installing and adjusting correctly to be legal and pass an MOT.
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Re: HID Conversion?

Postby LiDL » Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:48 pm

I've moved this to Show / Track use, if there's anything more to discuss on the subjectof HID's please ensure you stay on topic..

If you have any questions regarding what can and cant be discussed regarding illegal driving and mods please feel free to discuss that in this thread
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